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CMV: You shouldn’t expect children to take care of their parents when they are old
My argument is based on one belief or value. Having children should be expression of unconditional love. Children are not an investment or insurance for old age. If you want to have insurance, standard saving is much cheaper option. If ... | One of the reasons there I'd mass killings and kids that have trouble socializing is because grand parents are sent away and forgotten. If the relationship is toxic then I understand not wanting them around. It does to a village to rise a child and USA culture has lost sight of that. | Lol...not when Nigeria's Interest rate still pegs at 13.5% ...How will i survive if they dont take care of me if things get worst than how it is right now. Retirement Insurance is a shitty show in my country. I will rather invest in my kids so they can take care of me | e2ueq8 | CMV: You shouldn’t expect children to take care of their parents when they are old | My argument is based on one belief or value. Having children should be expression of unconditional love. Children are not an investment or insurance for old age. If you want to have insurance, standard saving is much cheaper option. If you want your kids to take care of you that would mean that you taking care of them ... | 1,574,924,905 | Z7-852 | f8z1yak | f8ycbkz | 2 | 1 |
CMV: the word "incel" is a baseless insult used by people to describe a certain political affiliation.
Incel means involuntary celibate which was coined by people to describe themselves and why they are not having sex and to point out that it is no fault of their own.
Incel is now thrown around to describe people on ... | You've got it backwards. The right wing isn't associated with incels because of people using "incel" as an insult. Rather, the word "incel" itself [was appropriated by](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel) right-wing people who self-identified as incels. Eventually, the term "incel" came to be understood to refer to th... | I’ve heard the term incel be tossed Around. It seems to me to be a modern generic term for dweeb or nerd, with no political tone to it. Which sites are you on that exclusively use the term incel to describe right wing nut jobs? | a8pqhh | CMV: the word "incel" is a baseless insult used by people to describe a certain political affiliation. | Incel means involuntary celibate which was coined by people to describe themselves and why they are not having sex and to point out that it is no fault of their own.
Incel is now thrown around to describe people on the right even when said people don't subscribe to said ideology, much like the word cuck is thrown arou... | 1,545,521,883 | themarksmann | eccnyzn | eccn9dc | 27 | 0 |
CMV: Freedom of speech means the right to have and express an opinion, not to insult random people
I am not aware of how old days used to be. But what I do know that this world is not going in the right direction when it comes to freedom of speech and expression. The version of this 'freedom' that people are using ess... | Freedom works like this;
I have the right to swing my arm to and fro - But that right ends at your face - A right is not a right if exercising it causes damage to a person or a persons property
As it stands, words do not cause damage - No word uttered can break a leg or cut the skin, no phrase can smash your he... | If you restrict Freedom of Speech in such a way, things get dangerous. Sure, you can say insults aren’t allowed. But then who decides what qualifies as an insult? The government? So what happens if a journalist writes a critical piece on a politician, and they call the politician out for some flaw, say they call him “a... | b4jt13 | CMV: Freedom of speech means the right to have and express an opinion, not to insult random people | I am not aware of how old days used to be. But what I do know that this world is not going in the right direction when it comes to freedom of speech and expression. The version of this 'freedom' that people are using essentially makes this world a worse place than it would have been.
Correct me if I'm wrong but freedo... | 1,553,351,687 | Suradoe | ej7615o | ej73p1d | 6 | 3 |
CMV:Men have just as much right to "Abort" A child as the mother.
If they don't want to child but the mother does that is fine. However the mother going on to have the child even after the father says he does not want it should cause the father to have no legal obligation to pay for or care for the child. And while mo... | Men aren't the ones that the child is growing in, so no, men have less skin in the game.
If men could have a 'financial abortion', it would result in men not having to care about birth control. If the woman gets pregnant, that's no longer his problem, so he just won't think about it. This would either result in more ... | Because he created him ?
If you create a bomb in your garden, and cops come and see it, you'll have to pay for what you've done, even if it is proven that you did not wanted to use it.
You know that putting a girl pregnant carry the risk of her keeping the kid and you paying for it, that's the law. If she abort, yo... | 9fiahr | CMV:Men have just as much right to "Abort" A child as the mother. | If they don't want to child but the mother does that is fine. However the mother going on to have the child even after the father says he does not want it should cause the father to have no legal obligation to pay for or care for the child. And while more controversial and i don't really know personally how this is, bu... | 1,536,847,701 | Cowpancakes | e5wmhek | e5wmcm8 | 7 | 3 |
CMV: Freedom of speech means the right to have and express an opinion, not to insult random people
I am not aware of how old days used to be. But what I do know that this world is not going in the right direction when it comes to freedom of speech and expression. The version of this 'freedom' that people are using ess... | So, like you, I like civility. I don't want to see mean-spirited, petty attacks on people. I think a lot of the discourse on both sides of any issue is counter productive.
But the alternative is having someone decide WHICH speech is too mean. That's how government censors work. And that's how dictatorships work.
... | Who defines what fits the criteria? | b4jt13 | CMV: Freedom of speech means the right to have and express an opinion, not to insult random people | I am not aware of how old days used to be. But what I do know that this world is not going in the right direction when it comes to freedom of speech and expression. The version of this 'freedom' that people are using essentially makes this world a worse place than it would have been.
Correct me if I'm wrong but freedo... | 1,553,351,687 | Suradoe | ej73f6t | ej7362g | 14 | 3 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | Yes, with our given physics, suffering is inevitable. But if god is omnipotent, he can create a universe with laws where no one has to die. Isn't that something the ultimate game player could do? Where conscious experience could still be a natural consequence of his laws, but no suffering ensues. From my understand... | He is being a little shit don't listen to him | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lq9bg | e3lq18m | 37 | 8 |
CMV: Derek Chauvin did not receive a fair trial.
Note: I AM NOT DEFENDING DEREK CHAUVIN!!! He is a murderer and I do believe the jury was right to convict him. However I don’t believe he had a fair trial.
In america everyone is entitled to a fair trial. Meaning that you get a day in court with a jury that decides you... | How would a re-trial be any more fair? Any prospective juror likely knows the circumstances surrounding the case. And how would sequestering the jury for a couple of weeks kept them from the knowledge of everything that happened in the last year?
If you don’t think Chauvin got a fair trial because of those circumst... | >Biden commented that he hoped the jury would come to the ‘right’ conclusion.
the jury was sequestered when he made that comment. the jury didn't hear it. | mvtono | CMV: Derek Chauvin did not receive a fair trial. | Note: I AM NOT DEFENDING DEREK CHAUVIN!!! He is a murderer and I do believe the jury was right to convict him. However I don’t believe he had a fair trial.
In america everyone is entitled to a fair trial. Meaning that you get a day in court with a jury that decides your fate. This means an Impartial jury - One that is... | 1,619,052,520 | Gensokyofartsniffer | gve4gt7 | gve48vm | 14 | 9 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | "To live is to suffer, to survive is to find meaning in the suffering."
-Friedrich Nietzsche, atheist philosopher
Life sucks. But from my perspective, you would never have happiness without suffering. This is why perfection is so nonsensical a concept to me. But remember that meaning is out there. It might not make y... | Evolution isn’t about purpose, it’s more about the effect of accidents on successful reproduction. It’s reasonable to suggest that the collection of accidents that led to the existence of sadness created a situation that helped signal to the larger community that support was needed, thereby helping sad people recover a... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lqlwu | e3lp1a9 | 126 | 59 |
CMV: The movie Idiocracy promotes the idea of eugenics
When I first saw the movie Idiocracy I thought it was hilarious and I thought the premise at the beginning made enough logical sense that I didn't feel the need to question it.
This all changed when I learned about the Kallikak family. Basically a psychologist n... | The movie doesnt promote eugenics for one simple reason. At The end of The movie, Then President Not Sure, makes a speech saying that people used to consume more intelligent Entertainment such as books and that they would Value Education and intelligence rather than riducule it. He also says that if society would have ... | If you define eugenics broadly enough to mean anything that has the effect of improving the gene pool of the human race, and also think of it narrowly enough that you’re basically thinking of Nazis whenever it comes up, then you’re living directly on the slippery slope and you should relocate so that your property isn’... | 94s3r1 | CMV: The movie Idiocracy promotes the idea of eugenics | When I first saw the movie Idiocracy I thought it was hilarious and I thought the premise at the beginning made enough logical sense that I didn't feel the need to question it.
This all changed when I learned about the Kallikak family. Basically a psychologist named Henry Goddard who believed that feeble mindedness i... | 1,533,478,174 | [deleted] | e3ndgpf | e3nbtfx | 26 | 2 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | As a non religious individual I often consider the fact that a "god" may very well exist, but considering the scope of both power and persuasion an individual of a god calibre would employ, it would be reasonable to assume that such an entity would view us as interesting and important as you would a single celled organ... | Have you ever played a computer game like *The Sims* or *Cities: Skylines*? Perhaps *X-COM* or some other strategy game where you play as an eye in the sky or, kind of a god? I'm asking because that's the closest we can become like a god. Otherwise I could compare it to being a teacher or a parent, or any role where... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lrxbr | e3lowxy | 584 | 39 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | If there is no god than who am I talking to?
Here is the plan brother. Stop looking for people to help you, like you've noticed they're mostly living paycheck to paycheck. Look for people suffering in similar ways that you are. This is called a community of vulnerability and they can be quite powerful. Once you find e... | Sorry, u/kittyfox3 – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 1:
> **Direct responses to a CMV post must challenge at least one aspect of OP’s stated view (however minor), or ask a clarifying question**. Arguments in favor of the view OP is willing to change must be restricted to replies to other comments. [See... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3ltm68 | e3ltgjz | 3 | 1 |
CMV: The Struts/Kesha's song "Body Talks" is just as rapey as Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines"
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I love Kesha, so when a new song featuring her came on the radio I was excited. It's pretty upbeat and fun, but there are some parts that are *seriously* suspect, which really surprised m... | I will admit they are both a bit rapey, but one far more than the other. For one, in body talks, the line "If it's my imagination stop me if I'm wrong" is implying that despite body language, she is still asking the other party to give consent before proceeding further. Conversely, there is no mention of consent in blu... | There are always more than two options. There are 4 people that have songwriting credits on the original version.
Some options:
* they wrote different parts and didn't notice it was all rapey
* they all worked together and didn't notice
* they were feeling rapey and wrote a rapey song
* they looked at what was popula... | a8ofo6 | CMV: The Struts/Kesha's song "Body Talks" is just as rapey as Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines" | Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I love Kesha, so when a new song featuring her came on the radio I was excited. It's pretty upbeat and fun, but there are some parts that are *seriously* suspect, which really surprised me. The second half of the chorus says:
>"You can pretend you don't wanna know
>But I read th... | 1,545,512,486 | TheSpaceCoresDad | ecchq9b | eccedbn | 9 | 0 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | I’m a Christian, and my stance on this is that almost all negative things on this earth are products of free will. Whether it’s the pollution in the air causing cancer, earthquakes from fracking, or bad decisions we make with our diets.
As far as all the “it’s God’s plan” stuff Christians always say. I think it’s a p... | Have you ever played a computer game like *The Sims* or *Cities: Skylines*? Perhaps *X-COM* or some other strategy game where you play as an eye in the sky or, kind of a god? I'm asking because that's the closest we can become like a god. Otherwise I could compare it to being a teacher or a parent, or any role where... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lr6qu | e3lowxy | 96 | 39 |
CMV: The Prophet Muhammad, claimed under Islam as the Most Moral of All Men, was a child rapist.
The hadiths make it clear that he took his wife Aisha for marriage when she was 6. Many Muhammad apologists try to say she was actually much older and the Hadiths in question can't be trusted since they aren't "the word of... | Many marriages during that time were married young. Any man with a conscious would wait until the girl could safely carry a child. I am not defending this practice in any way. But old used to be 40! So you cannot really judge people from that time on today's standards. Women were considered less important than their wa... | It is actually legal for an adult to marry a child in the US, and only in recent history did it become a crime for a husband to force himself on his wife. Given the pushback on rape laws in the US I think it's safe to say this isn't nearly as universally condemnable as you or OP seem to believe. | mvqyoq | CMV: The Prophet Muhammad, claimed under Islam as the Most Moral of All Men, was a child rapist. | The hadiths make it clear that he took his wife Aisha for marriage when she was 6. Many Muhammad apologists try to say she was actually much older and the Hadiths in question can't be trusted since they aren't "the word of Allah".. even though many are first hand accounts of the girl herself. By following the logic tha... | 1,619,043,608 | Drewsef916 | gvduw4n | gvduk8m | 7 | -4 |
CMV: Derek Chauvin did not receive a fair trial.
Note: I AM NOT DEFENDING DEREK CHAUVIN!!! He is a murderer and I do believe the jury was right to convict him. However I don’t believe he had a fair trial.
In america everyone is entitled to a fair trial. Meaning that you get a day in court with a jury that decides you... | >Even before the verdict, the judge in the case refused to sequester jurors from media coverage and outside influences during the trial, and that the pressure conveyed to them was beyond intense.
That's not accurate. The jury was partially sequestered meaning they were allowed to go home at night, but outside if that... | There was never going to be a trial of Derek Chauvin where the background of what happened after George Floyd died wasn't in the jury's mind. The trial started after the footage had been released and the protests took over the country. So sequestering wouldn't have made the jury less conscious of this wider political m... | mvtono | CMV: Derek Chauvin did not receive a fair trial. | Note: I AM NOT DEFENDING DEREK CHAUVIN!!! He is a murderer and I do believe the jury was right to convict him. However I don’t believe he had a fair trial.
In america everyone is entitled to a fair trial. Meaning that you get a day in court with a jury that decides your fate. This means an Impartial jury - One that is... | 1,619,052,520 | Gensokyofartsniffer | gve5z39 | gve4o82 | 30 | 15 |
CMV: the word "incel" is a baseless insult used by people to describe a certain political affiliation.
Incel means involuntary celibate which was coined by people to describe themselves and why they are not having sex and to point out that it is no fault of their own.
Incel is now thrown around to describe people on ... | https://www.reddit.com/r/yourmomshousepodcast/comments/a7jcwo/your_moms_house_podcast_ep_479_w_nikki_glaser/ec4t1ka
https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/a8oye9/the_word_incel_is_the_far_left_equivalent_of_cuck/eccgnbe
Here is two examples of people being called incels and both people are left leaning ... | Anytime someone tries to advocate for a male-friendly approach to a social or legal issue, the word incel magically appears.
| a8pqhh | CMV: the word "incel" is a baseless insult used by people to describe a certain political affiliation. | Incel means involuntary celibate which was coined by people to describe themselves and why they are not having sex and to point out that it is no fault of their own.
Incel is now thrown around to describe people on the right even when said people don't subscribe to said ideology, much like the word cuck is thrown arou... | 1,545,521,883 | themarksmann | eccps7x | eccpk95 | 0 | -3 |
CMV: Modern art lacks true talent and is possibly, even, harmful to the medium as a whole
I feel that modern art lacks talent, as I said. I especially am referring to minimalism and the vein of modern art that revolves around everyday items (eg Duchamp's "Fountain", although even more mundane most of the time). Also, ... | Going along with the premise that artistic talent = technical skill ( and assuming that the definition of artist also includes the members of their studio who do a lot of the production of the work )
While a lot of the works you are referencing require what appears to be low technical skill on a big picture level thi... | I would say that minimalist art is the hardest art to create.
(1) The value and greatness of art is based, at least partially, on the feeling art produces.
(2) The ability to create master works of painting that look picture-perfect, after their initial conception, requires simply learning a technique. This techniqu... | 6qkbkr | CMV: Modern art lacks true talent and is possibly, even, harmful to the medium as a whole | I feel that modern art lacks talent, as I said. I especially am referring to minimalism and the vein of modern art that revolves around everyday items (eg Duchamp's "Fountain", although even more mundane most of the time). Also, to a degree, I am referring to art which is meant to be streaks and splatters on the canvas... | 1,501,453,129 | DiosDeDairy | dkybw7t | dkxxmsq | 8 | 3 |
CMV: People insisting on being referred to by genderqueer pronouns do not want equal treatment, they want special treatment.
While I can sympathize with mtf or ftm trans people, those who identify as genderqeer or non-binary, while also insisting on being referred to as ["they", "ze", "sie", "hir", "co", or "ey"](htt... | >If I call you "she" when you're a man, you might correct me and point out that "he" is a more appropriate term regarding your gender. I can then use the pronoun you prefer, or I can continue to call you "she". Likewise, there are people who don't identify as a man or a woman, and therefore it doesn't make sense from t... | If you call me an existing word that does not fit with what that existing word means, then no one is asking for special treatment by correcting you. If you ask me to call you a word I've never heard before that only applies to one person who I've only just met, and you suggest I'd better remember it and use it every ti... | 9fgvlr | CMV: People insisting on being referred to by genderqueer pronouns do not want equal treatment, they want special treatment. | While I can sympathize with mtf or ftm trans people, those who identify as genderqeer or non-binary, while also insisting on being referred to as ["they", "ze", "sie", "hir", "co", or "ey"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderqueer#Pronouns_and_titles) do not want equal treatment, they want special treatment. Equal tr... | 1,536,835,064 | JoeVacs | e5wfnf7 | e5we978 | 17 | 1 |
CMV: The Prophet Muhammad, claimed under Islam as the Most Moral of All Men, was a child rapist.
The hadiths make it clear that he took his wife Aisha for marriage when she was 6. Many Muhammad apologists try to say she was actually much older and the Hadiths in question can't be trusted since they aren't "the word of... | I'm not a Muslim and I don't think having sex with a nine year old is right under any circumstance, but the age of consent varies from place to place even today. If someone had sex with a 16 year old in Michigan that would be completely legal, but someone in another state might consider them a child rapist. I'm not d... | The fact that it is insulting and inflammatory,(don't really understand how it is bigoted if its in the book they preach of) it already shows they know it was wrong yet still worship him.
Edit: 15 is still to young for a full adult man to marry a girl.
Edit 2:Thr cultural context should not have an bearing on a man a... | mvqyoq | CMV: The Prophet Muhammad, claimed under Islam as the Most Moral of All Men, was a child rapist. | The hadiths make it clear that he took his wife Aisha for marriage when she was 6. Many Muhammad apologists try to say she was actually much older and the Hadiths in question can't be trusted since they aren't "the word of Allah".. even though many are first hand accounts of the girl herself. By following the logic tha... | 1,619,043,608 | Drewsef916 | gvdvaw1 | gvdsjao | 21 | 11 |
cmv: Police have the duty to shoot attackers of other people
I’m trying to understand the outrage surrounding the most recent police shooting. From what I understand, if someone attacks someone else with a knife, their life is forfeit. If I can defend myself by shooting someone attacking me, a cop can also act as my a... | Police have a duty to do everything in their power to deescalate the situation before they take it upon themselves to end a persons life unless they are in a position where they genuinely feel they cannot. | The outrage comes from the fact the victim called the police because other girls were threatening her. She grabbed a knife to protect herself. Police show up and shoot her because of the knife. | mvqy4n | cmv: Police have the duty to shoot attackers of other people | I’m trying to understand the outrage surrounding the most recent police shooting. From what I understand, if someone attacks someone else with a knife, their life is forfeit. If I can defend myself by shooting someone attacking me, a cop can also act as my agent of self defense. In fact I think it is their moral and le... | 1,619,043,558 | th3empirial | gvdmmd0 | gvdm4cq | 29 | 4 |
cmv: Police have the duty to shoot attackers of other people
I’m trying to understand the outrage surrounding the most recent police shooting. From what I understand, if someone attacks someone else with a knife, their life is forfeit. If I can defend myself by shooting someone attacking me, a cop can also act as my a... | With the case of Makiyah Bryant that you are referring to a lot of people may point out that the officer-involved could have resolved the incident in a way that would not have involved shooting Bryant. The moment when the officer arrives on the scene he could have immediately acted when Bryant assaulted the other woman... | In a vacuum you're right but outside that vacuum white men shoot up grocery stores or massage parlors or churches and are taken alive.
Dylan Roof was taken to Burger King, Kyle Rittenhouse was handed a water but a teenage girl with a knife is shot five times. | mvqy4n | cmv: Police have the duty to shoot attackers of other people | I’m trying to understand the outrage surrounding the most recent police shooting. From what I understand, if someone attacks someone else with a knife, their life is forfeit. If I can defend myself by shooting someone attacking me, a cop can also act as my agent of self defense. In fact I think it is their moral and le... | 1,619,043,558 | th3empirial | gvdnzoh | gvdms04 | 2 | -3 |
CMV: I believe that the way you are raised can have long-lasting negative repercussions, that may not be reversible.
I have created this post specifically for myself and will provide personal context (as it does influence my view.) I will also provide a generalized version for discussion.
###Personal Context
>I was r... | As a nanny who tries to instill proper habits in children and an adult who was not encouraged to form proper habits as a child, I both agree and disagree with you.
>Children are meant to be instilled with good habits early on in their life. They are eager to learn, often by example, and easily impressionable.
It is ... | I've actually been thinking a lot about this in the past couple of days -- how we are defined by our experiences. However, if you begin to think of yourself as only the amalgamation of what has happened to you, you lose your sense of self entirely. You cannot think of yourself as a passive entity in your own life. As h... | 6qlmnn | CMV: I believe that the way you are raised can have long-lasting negative repercussions, that may not be reversible. | I have created this post specifically for myself and will provide personal context (as it does influence my view.) I will also provide a generalized version for discussion.
###Personal Context
>I was raised with the freedom to never have to do homework. I now have no study habits as a young adult, and cannot focus on ... | 1,501,468,536 | ThePathLaid | dkye8gd | dkydsec | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Smart speakers are generally a bad idea.
Smart speakers such as google home and alexa offer some nice conveniences. But I feel like they have a few overlooked net negatives.
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These devices only further our dependence on centralized services and providers like google and amazon. When we outsource larger ... | Something that's often overlooked is the benefits for people with special needs. For some people being able to turn off the lights without having to get up is a real game changer in terms of autonomy. | >These devices only further our dependence on centralized services and providers like google and amazon.
Whether you personally like it or not, do you think you can affect our overall dependence on these centralized services? | a8nrxn | CMV: Smart speakers are generally a bad idea. | Smart speakers such as google home and alexa offer some nice conveniences. But I feel like they have a few overlooked net negatives.
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These devices only further our dependence on centralized services and providers like google and amazon. When we outsource larger and larger parts of our lives to a smart home s... | 1,545,507,819 | mulletlaw | eccv52i | eccdcie | 6 | 0 |
CMV: I believe that the way you are raised can have long-lasting negative repercussions, that may not be reversible.
I have created this post specifically for myself and will provide personal context (as it does influence my view.) I will also provide a generalized version for discussion.
###Personal Context
>I was r... | I just do not buy that you are 'lazy'. I think you have been depressed for a long, long time.
You don't develop bad habits because you weren't 'taught' good ones. **Habits develop when behaviors are rewarded when adhered to, and punished when deviated from.** Yes, a parent should teach by rewarding and punishing. A fe... | As a nanny who tries to instill proper habits in children and an adult who was not encouraged to form proper habits as a child, I both agree and disagree with you.
>Children are meant to be instilled with good habits early on in their life. They are eager to learn, often by example, and easily impressionable.
It is ... | 6qlmnn | CMV: I believe that the way you are raised can have long-lasting negative repercussions, that may not be reversible. | I have created this post specifically for myself and will provide personal context (as it does influence my view.) I will also provide a generalized version for discussion.
###Personal Context
>I was raised with the freedom to never have to do homework. I now have no study habits as a young adult, and cannot focus on ... | 1,501,468,536 | ThePathLaid | dkyewwm | dkye8gd | 5 | 2 |
CMV: The gender gap in STEM is due, at least in part to biology
Specifically, due to differences in IQ spread. Due to the higher spread in males (on both extremes), there are twice as many males with 120 IQ and above than females. It follows that even with equal opportunity, females will be underrepresented in highly ... | Are you referring to IQ spread? If so, ["Most standard tests of intelligence have been constructed so that there are no overall score differences between females and males." Thus, there is little difference between the average IQ scores of men and women.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_intelligence?... | IQ itself can be a representation of a biased society. Those tests are designed with society in mind, after all and are not some kind of neutral test, based on some mathematical constants that are inherent to the universe.
A society that views one gender as "active" and the other one as "passive" (Our society does t... | 94qwo2 | CMV: The gender gap in STEM is due, at least in part to biology | Specifically, due to differences in IQ spread. Due to the higher spread in males (on both extremes), there are twice as many males with 120 IQ and above than females. It follows that even with equal opportunity, females will be underrepresented in highly complex job fields like math research, or STEM in general.
Note ... | 1,533,464,118 | WaltWhit3 | e3n4gy9 | e3n3pv8 | 8 | 6 |
CMV: The Prophet Muhammad, claimed under Islam as the Most Moral of All Men, was a child rapist.
The hadiths make it clear that he took his wife Aisha for marriage when she was 6. Many Muhammad apologists try to say she was actually much older and the Hadiths in question can't be trusted since they aren't "the word of... | >By following the logic that the hadiths can't be trusted then we would have little to no knowledge of Muhammad himself and also getting rid of the hadiths turns the Quran into mound of disconnected contextless writings.
This is a black and white fallacy. There isn't a two way dichotomy that either we have to say all ... | i think its more they know its wrong today, but muhammad does not live today, and there was no concept of a "pedophile" back then. a "pedophile" is an invention of our era for someone attracted to children. we have 0 idea if muhammad was attracted to children or not. since muslims believe he was incapable of major s... | mvqyoq | CMV: The Prophet Muhammad, claimed under Islam as the Most Moral of All Men, was a child rapist. | The hadiths make it clear that he took his wife Aisha for marriage when she was 6. Many Muhammad apologists try to say she was actually much older and the Hadiths in question can't be trusted since they aren't "the word of Allah".. even though many are first hand accounts of the girl herself. By following the logic tha... | 1,619,043,608 | Drewsef916 | gvdzovy | gvdwcud | 83 | 5 |
CMV: Marriage and Long Term relationships are prostitution
I think that marriage and long term relationships are prostitution because they involve a man giving additional things to a woman in an attempt to get her to have sex with him. I do believe that there can be exceptions such as marriages that began as friends w... | This post assumes 2 incredibly wrong things: sex is the foremost reason people get married, a woman only has her body to offer in a marriage.
Given that many couples practice premarital sex, sex would not be an incentive to get married. Secondly women have roles in a relationship outside of the bedroom. Depending on t... | Relationships involve *sharing* resources. Sometimes that means the man gives more, sometimes it means that he takes more.
>I only think that marriages are not built on genuine sexual attraction on a woman's part and thus are a form of prostitution.
That's not what prostitution is. Prostitution is the exchange of mon... | 6xqfon | CMV: Marriage and Long Term relationships are prostitution | I think that marriage and long term relationships are prostitution because they involve a man giving additional things to a woman in an attempt to get her to have sex with him. I do believe that there can be exceptions such as marriages that began as friends with benefits arrangements and scenarios where men impregnate... | 1,504,402,859 | ouijblvndrwoek | dmhqqlk | dmhps16 | 11 | 2 |
CMV: The gender gap in STEM is due, at least in part to biology
Specifically, due to differences in IQ spread. Due to the higher spread in males (on both extremes), there are twice as many males with 120 IQ and above than females. It follows that even with equal opportunity, females will be underrepresented in highly ... | Some studies have shown that this higher spread in intelligence for males is not found in some cultures and has changed over time e.g. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2689999/. These papers conclude that the difference in spread of intelligence is itself an artefact of gender inequality. | Do you want us to tell you that man and woman are biological equal? Because that won't happen.
Or do you want to talk about the reasons the gender gap is problematic and why we should try to minimize it? | 94qwo2 | CMV: The gender gap in STEM is due, at least in part to biology | Specifically, due to differences in IQ spread. Due to the higher spread in males (on both extremes), there are twice as many males with 120 IQ and above than females. It follows that even with equal opportunity, females will be underrepresented in highly complex job fields like math research, or STEM in general.
Note ... | 1,533,464,118 | WaltWhit3 | e3n42c3 | e3n3kty | 9 | 1 |
CMV: It is better to destroy old clothing than donate it.
My argument is that, although well-intentioned, the donation of clothing has an end impact which closely resembles anti-competitive dumping which artificially depresses foreign local economies. The benefits do not outweigh the costs.
Significant portions of cl... | Only about 25% of donated clothes makes it overseas to be sold as clothing (10% domestically). The other 65% is recycled as rags/yarn/mattress filling/etc. If you donate more, the same amount will go overseas but more will be recycled.
So unless you hate the environment, donating clothing is better than discarding ... | I don't know where you think people are donating to, but when I take unwanted clothing to the charity shop, I can see for myself that they are selling donated clothing to local people who presumably want to wear it - and it would be immoral to destroy clothing which can be worn by people who cannot afford all new cloth... | a8nsht | CMV: It is better to destroy old clothing than donate it. | My argument is that, although well-intentioned, the donation of clothing has an end impact which closely resembles anti-competitive dumping which artificially depresses foreign local economies. The benefits do not outweigh the costs.
Significant portions of clothing donated in Western economies is shipped in bulk to b... | 1,545,507,935 | 052934 | ecce519 | eccdc39 | 5 | 1 |
CMV: “Life” is the worst board game popularly played by adults
Let me start off by saying I am by no means a board game expert. I definitely enjoy board games, and I’ve played quite a few, but I’m by no means a die-hard tabletop game player. Now, on to my view.
First, the game of life is boring. There is very little ... | Alright so I absolutely love tabletop games and I agree it is a pretty terrible game. That being said it does have its positives. Strategically, you are correct there is very minimal choices, just a couple different paths in the version I played. What LIFE does have is a good theme that tells interesting story. I did ... | is it really a popular adult game? I haven't played it since grade school. | e2tq54 | CMV: “Life” is the worst board game popularly played by adults | Let me start off by saying I am by no means a board game expert. I definitely enjoy board games, and I’ve played quite a few, but I’m by no means a die-hard tabletop game player. Now, on to my view.
First, the game of life is boring. There is very little strategy involved. Basically the entire premise of the game is y... | 1,574,921,065 | sagespice | f8xm6el | f8xlnwl | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Sexual liberation and casual sex has harmed women
I grew up very Catholic so it was no surprise that when I initially went to college, I was very chaste. My sophomore year of college I was exposed to "hook up culture" and in the classroom, learned about women's sexual liberation in the 60's. I was sold on the wh... | You know what? Your last sentence was such a good point.
I think I widened the definition of what women's sexual liberation meant. I do think that girl's should be warned in advance that they shouldn't feel ashamed to have sex, but understand how men view casual sex and the consequences of that. | > no-strings-attached, totally-cool-with-no-emotional-involvement sex, that's fine. But everybody has to be on board.
If you're having a hook-up, you should be on board with that because that's what hook ups are. If you're not on board with that, don't have hook ups. | 6xq7f1 | CMV: Sexual liberation and casual sex has harmed women | I grew up very Catholic so it was no surprise that when I initially went to college, I was very chaste. My sophomore year of college I was exposed to "hook up culture" and in the classroom, learned about women's sexual liberation in the 60's. I was sold on the whole idea of women's sexual liberation and casual sex: if... | 1,504,400,233 | dukenotredame | dmhrc16 | dmhq957 | 11 | 4 |
CMV: We shouldn't be so harsh against pedofiles who haven't done anything
I'm gonna start off by saying that child molestation is NOT ok.
If you're a pedofile, it's hard to seek help because you fear that people will hate you for it. If people find out you're a pedofile, you'll be labeled as a pedofile for the rest ... | At the heart of it is the fact that the thought of someone finding a child sexually attractive disgusts us. It's no different to how the thought of a parent and their biological child having a sexual relationship disgusts us even if both parties are adults. It's a hardwired response.
I go further than you, though, si... | What do you mean by "not doing anything"? They never, ever, in any way, acted on their desires ? Or do you mean only physically? Is it ok if they've only seen pictures? If not, I don't get how people would find it out.
Being attracted by younger girls is 100% ok; it doesn't imply anything with minors per say. Being a... | e2w85f | CMV: We shouldn't be so harsh against pedofiles who haven't done anything | I'm gonna start off by saying that child molestation is NOT ok.
If you're a pedofile, it's hard to seek help because you fear that people will hate you for it. If people find out you're a pedofile, you'll be labeled as a pedofile for the rest of your life, and you'll probably lose all your friends and family. If we t... | 1,574,936,505 | TheTazerLazer | f8y6n6f | f8y14he | 13 | 7 |
CMV: Cause and Effect is a sufficient argument for proving God's existence
\[Edit\] Thank you for your comments everybody! I think I got the gist of the arguments against the Cause and Effect argument. While I remain unconvinced of these counter-arguments, I appreciate your comments. I don't think I have time to answe... | First off, I disagree with every counter argument people have posed to you. Every counter argument has been people gerrymandering the word "cause" or they're discarding causality without dealing with the consequences of that.
I'm gonna give you what I think is the one and only possible refutation of the cosmological a... | >The universe and all that exists could not exist without an initial cause.
One would think that, but we honestly don't know if this is true.
>We may never be able to understand or prove how the universe started, but an ultimate cause for the existence of the universe exists.
Again, we don't know if an ultimate cau... | 94qxt6 | CMV: Cause and Effect is a sufficient argument for proving God's existence | \[Edit\] Thank you for your comments everybody! I think I got the gist of the arguments against the Cause and Effect argument. While I remain unconvinced of these counter-arguments, I appreciate your comments. I don't think I have time to answer any more comments though.
The universe and all that exists could not e... | 1,533,464,583 | cinnamon_pancake | e3n4l3b | e3n3dni | 4 | 2 |
CMV: eSports are sports
I am so sorry about how long this turned out and if you read the whole thing you deserve many upvotes and guilds in the near future.
To start, I know that this topic has been posted before but reading through I feel that those posts lacked a lot about the argument so I wanted to go in depth ab... | I'm going to take a different approach here because this is a topic that I've deliberated on for quite a while.
In my opinion, eSports are not sports because they're *products*. Now, that's not to say that 'traditional sports' haven't been commercialized (they obviously have), but at their core they are completely acc... | You deserve an upvote because you made your research and took the time to write a long post. But I have to disaggre. First of all, how many people attend these events, and how much revenue comes from it, doesn’t make it a sport.
Of course playing video games have advantages, improving your coordination reaction time a... | b4gfo8 | CMV: eSports are sports | I am so sorry about how long this turned out and if you read the whole thing you deserve many upvotes and guilds in the near future.
To start, I know that this topic has been posted before but reading through I feel that those posts lacked a lot about the argument so I wanted to go in depth about the subject.
First, ... | 1,553,326,347 | ItsTheShepherd | ej6o1mf | ej6lb6u | 415 | 91 |
CMV: Sexual liberation and casual sex has harmed women
I grew up very Catholic so it was no surprise that when I initially went to college, I was very chaste. My sophomore year of college I was exposed to "hook up culture" and in the classroom, learned about women's sexual liberation in the 60's. I was sold on the wh... | I'm sorry you feel that way, but I feel like your experiences being very limited isn't a good representation of the culture as a whole. I also think you're making the mistake of thinking that some of these experiences didn't also happen to women before now. Some men still treated women as sex objects and are just as sh... | > We were sleeping with these men but they didn't even see us as human beings. Sex was just like eating a sandwich to them, they didn't care where it came from. We were just sex objects for men to get off on.
> I just can't see how sexual liberation has helped women. No matter how liberated we feel, when men have casu... | 6xq7f1 | CMV: Sexual liberation and casual sex has harmed women | I grew up very Catholic so it was no surprise that when I initially went to college, I was very chaste. My sophomore year of college I was exposed to "hook up culture" and in the classroom, learned about women's sexual liberation in the 60's. I was sold on the whole idea of women's sexual liberation and casual sex: if... | 1,504,400,233 | dukenotredame | dmhq7oe | dmhptgn | 103 | 2 |
CMV: I believe that the way you are raised can have long-lasting negative repercussions, that may not be reversible.
I have created this post specifically for myself and will provide personal context (as it does influence my view.) I will also provide a generalized version for discussion.
###Personal Context
>I was r... | The beginning is obviously true, so I want to address some things
> And whats wrong about this [profiting from that information]? Help isn't always free and if you want to change something about yourself you have to be willing to make a sacrifice to do so.
I didn't argue that it was wrong. I simply said that it was n... | while i can understand your reasoning i can disagree
As the common phrase, old habits die hard, suggest it can be extremly diffuclt and tiresome to break habits but speaking from personal experience the habits instilled in you at a young age are reverse able its important to set reasonable goals and work your way up t... | 6qlmnn | CMV: I believe that the way you are raised can have long-lasting negative repercussions, that may not be reversible. | I have created this post specifically for myself and will provide personal context (as it does influence my view.) I will also provide a generalized version for discussion.
###Personal Context
>I was raised with the freedom to never have to do homework. I now have no study habits as a young adult, and cannot focus on ... | 1,501,468,536 | ThePathLaid | dkyaidy | dky9wp0 | 3 | 2 |
cmv: Police have the duty to shoot attackers of other people
I’m trying to understand the outrage surrounding the most recent police shooting. From what I understand, if someone attacks someone else with a knife, their life is forfeit. If I can defend myself by shooting someone attacking me, a cop can also act as my a... | Are you arguing that they *should* have this duty, or that they *currently do*?
Because if the latter, courts have repeatedly ruled that police do not have a duty to protect individuals they encounter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
>"held that the police do not owe a specific duty to p... | >I’m trying to understand the outrage surrounding the most recent police shooting.
I think that people are getting pretty sick and tired of police shooting, beating, and killing so many people so often in situations where no one is attacking anyone with anything. We're kinda past the point of reserving our outrage unt... | mvqy4n | cmv: Police have the duty to shoot attackers of other people | I’m trying to understand the outrage surrounding the most recent police shooting. From what I understand, if someone attacks someone else with a knife, their life is forfeit. If I can defend myself by shooting someone attacking me, a cop can also act as my agent of self defense. In fact I think it is their moral and le... | 1,619,043,558 | th3empirial | gvdmnyr | gvdm4yu | 15 | 10 |
CMV: Milk Before Cereal ALWAYS
You put milk in first because If you put it last than the cereal will get softer from making direct pressured contact with the fragile cereal. And then you will have to quickly eat the cereal so it doesn’t get too soggy but don’t forget friction causes heat which will makes it soggier. ... | So I actually agree with you on some level. As someone that despises soggy cereal, I usually put milk in first for things like cocoa puffs or honey nut cheerios.
However, there are some cereals I do enjoy a decent level of sogginess that I add first. For example, Raisin Bran is a pain to eat when purely crunchy and be... | Ridiculous. Been putting in milk first since I was a wee lad with my eyes barely at table level.
You add some cereal, eat it repeat till you had enough... then drink the rest of the milk.
But I understand this is not for rookies, as if you don't chew with your teeth you will tear up the roof of your mouth with a cer... | mvpf8f | CMV: Milk Before Cereal ALWAYS |
You put milk in first because If you put it last than the cereal will get softer from making direct pressured contact with the fragile cereal. And then you will have to quickly eat the cereal so it doesn’t get too soggy but don’t forget friction causes heat which will makes it soggier. But all this can be avoided when... | 1,619,039,085 | shortqueentn | gvdejsg | gvddzga | 4 | 0 |
CMV:North America should legalize prostitution to keep sex workers safe.
Legalizing prostitution will create a safer environment for sex workers and its consumers. With legalization there will be safety standards and regulations including annual health check ups which will lower the spread of STDs. It will also elimin... | I see your point. Would you consider an industry that would crack down on cleaning it up if legalized, would employ legit managers instead of reusing the same old pimps that may have past ties in criminal activities. Perhaps that's too optimistic on my part and I do understand about your point of turning a blind eye.
... | >Even if there are more prostitutes trafficked in to meet the increased demand, the working and living conditions for prostitutes as a group might be vastly improved
If women would be so willing to be sex workers, then the local ones would do it.
But even if they wouldn't, we aren't even talking about fruit-picking ... | 871ehj | CMV:North America should legalize prostitution to keep sex workers safe. | Legalizing prostitution will create a safer environment for sex workers and its consumers. With legalization there will be safety standards and regulations including annual health check ups which will lower the spread of STDs. It will also eliminate the criminal elements of prostitution such as physical abuse to sex wo... | 1,521,992,040 | miss-go | dw9qpu9 | dw9o438 | 29 | 12 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | I'm late to this conversation but wanted to chime in because I think I can offer a view that hasn't been presented yet (from skimming this thread).
First, I'm sorry to hear of your situation but am glad you are getting assistance and in better spirits now. I really hope you and your family survive this ordeal and come... | > While this god may very well know of our existence it would be largely uninterested and or completely ignorant of us as individual entities. It would be akin to you throwing away a moldy loaf of bread, you may well be away that there are billions of living organisms there, but youre more concerned with having to run ... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3nc9rl | e3lzn3q | 0 | -1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | **Δ** Actually, that's entirely possible right? Maybe I am challenging the views commonly held in the southern most portion of the United States. To me, I could even entertain the possibility that we're part of something akin to an ancestor simulation, with someone at the controls who bears little resemblance to what... | Evolution isn’t about purpose, it’s more about the effect of accidents on successful reproduction. It’s reasonable to suggest that the collection of accidents that led to the existence of sadness created a situation that helped signal to the larger community that support was needed, thereby helping sad people recover a... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lr7nv | e3lp1a9 | 87 | 59 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | Yeah. Existentialism is pretty nice. Life might not have it's own meaning, but that's not stopping me from having mine. | What's karma level have to do with asking in a thread? | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lrgvj | e3lqac8 | 27 | 3 |
CMV: The Prophet Muhammad, claimed under Islam as the Most Moral of All Men, was a child rapist.
The hadiths make it clear that he took his wife Aisha for marriage when she was 6. Many Muhammad apologists try to say she was actually much older and the Hadiths in question can't be trusted since they aren't "the word of... | I don't know much about Islam, the little I know is that it's not a monolith and that you can't just handwave away whether or not the hadiths - and which - should be taken into consideration. In fact, my understanding is that this sort of stuff is a huge deal, and the reason why there are different factions of Islam wh... | There is absolutely evidence that Aisha was 6 when she married Mohammed, there is also evidence that she was an adult when she married him or somewhere in between. Therefore before we get into any accusations about Mohammed we have to satisfy the question of how old she was and here's the problem, we simply don't know.... | mvqyoq | CMV: The Prophet Muhammad, claimed under Islam as the Most Moral of All Men, was a child rapist. | The hadiths make it clear that he took his wife Aisha for marriage when she was 6. Many Muhammad apologists try to say she was actually much older and the Hadiths in question can't be trusted since they aren't "the word of Allah".. even though many are first hand accounts of the girl herself. By following the logic tha... | 1,619,043,608 | Drewsef916 | gvdvtuc | gvdv9eo | 455 | 70 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | This is an anecdote that may or may not be helpful, but it does speak to an observable trend.
When my wife became disabled (a long since diagnosed case of Lupus became far worse rather suddenly), we had a tremendous outpouring of support from 'the church.' I single quote it because as we had moved around, this wasn't... | Sorry, u/Literotamus – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 1:
> **Direct responses to a CMV post must challenge at least one aspect of OP’s stated view (however minor), or ask a clarifying question**. Arguments in favor of the view OP is willing to change must be restricted to replies to other comments. [S... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lykf4 | e3lwj65 | 2 | 1 |
CMV:North America should legalize prostitution to keep sex workers safe.
Legalizing prostitution will create a safer environment for sex workers and its consumers. With legalization there will be safety standards and regulations including annual health check ups which will lower the spread of STDs. It will also elimin... | http://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/outlawing-the-purchase-of-sex-has-been-key-to-swedens-success-in-reducing-prostitution
What is most effective is criminalizing BUYING sex (aka the demand side of the equation) but not criminalizing those who sell sex.
The Swedish approach had been more effective in reducing... | I heard some guy put it well.
Don't legalise it, but decriminalise it. This means you shouldn't recognise it as a profession but there should not be sanctions for practicing it. At the very least, reduced sanctions are in order. | 871ehj | CMV:North America should legalize prostitution to keep sex workers safe. | Legalizing prostitution will create a safer environment for sex workers and its consumers. With legalization there will be safety standards and regulations including annual health check ups which will lower the spread of STDs. It will also eliminate the criminal elements of prostitution such as physical abuse to sex wo... | 1,521,992,040 | miss-go | dw9tyk0 | dw9j1vp | 80 | 16 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | **Δ** Actually, that's entirely possible right? Maybe I am challenging the views commonly held in the southern most portion of the United States. To me, I could even entertain the possibility that we're part of something akin to an ancestor simulation, with someone at the controls who bears little resemblance to what... | Evolution isn’t about purpose, it’s more about the effect of accidents on successful reproduction. It’s reasonable to suggest that the collection of accidents that led to the existence of sadness created a situation that helped signal to the larger community that support was needed, thereby helping sad people recover a... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lr7nv | e3lp1a9 | 87 | 59 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | I won't argue with your point of view, I generally agree and as a definite atheist I'm not interested in a discussion on beliefs.
I'd argue that even from this perspective, being personally kind and helpful to the people around you is to your own and everyone else's benefit. If everyone helped the people around them ... | I'll throw in on this one.
I have thought about this a lot, so this is a gross oversimplification of my internal arguments.
Two important things to remember according to the Christians. 1) God promised happiness on earth if everyone followed the commandments, or put more simply "love thy neighbor as you love yoursel... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3m60pf | e3m3wg0 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | I am so, so sorry about your situation. I hope you find peace and support.
The problem you're describing is known as ["the problem of evil"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil) and it is something Christians have had to struggle with figuring out their answers to for centuries. It sounds like your friends a... | Let me try to give you another perspective.
First, the concept of God that you are fighting against, is a shadow of the reality, not the reality, religion is like the explanation of where do babies come from, to children, since they can't comprehend the complex reality, we talk to then using simplifications and symbol... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3m87oj | e3lspr7 | 3 | 0 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | Im not really here to convince you that god exists but i will say diamonds are made through preassure i could never imagine what your situation feels like but just remember that almost every great person whether in history or just in everday life had to overcome something absolutely horrible this is not the end of the ... | Sorry, u/kittyfox3 – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 1:
> **Direct responses to a CMV post must challenge at least one aspect of OP’s stated view (however minor), or ask a clarifying question**. Arguments in favor of the view OP is willing to change must be restricted to replies to other comments. [See... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3ltjiv | e3ltgjz | 6 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | OP i'll start by extending my sympathy to your situation. You're burdened by the tragedy of life placed square upon your shoulders and i'm sure i'll never understand how acute the pain is.
First, we need to be careful with the word "God," because it is the most abstract and misunderstood words in existence. I strongl... | Let me try to give you another perspective.
First, the concept of God that you are fighting against, is a shadow of the reality, not the reality, religion is like the explanation of where do babies come from, to children, since they can't comprehend the complex reality, we talk to then using simplifications and symbol... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3m6iaw | e3lspr7 | 2 | 0 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | **Δ** Actually, I have been entertaining that exact idea- that perhaps god exists, but is indifferent to us and not necessarily evil. Thanks for helping me along. You're incredibly insightful on a number of levels, especially your extension into the plight of the poor vs rich. I also agree that human ego is really... | Let me try to give you another perspective.
First, the concept of God that you are fighting against, is a shadow of the reality, not the reality, religion is like the explanation of where do babies come from, to children, since they can't comprehend the complex reality, we talk to then using simplifications and symbol... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lta5i | e3lspr7 | 243 | 0 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | I'll throw in on this one.
I have thought about this a lot, so this is a gross oversimplification of my internal arguments.
Two important things to remember according to the Christians. 1) God promised happiness on earth if everyone followed the commandments, or put more simply "love thy neighbor as you love yoursel... | > While this god may very well know of our existence it would be largely uninterested and or completely ignorant of us as individual entities. It would be akin to you throwing away a moldy loaf of bread, you may well be away that there are billions of living organisms there, but youre more concerned with having to run ... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3m3wg0 | e3lzn3q | 1 | -1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | I sometimes like to think of us as the microorganisms in the body of the mega organism we consider to be the divine, so tiny that it takes no real conscious notice of us. Our deaths go as unnoticed as the deaths of blood cells in our body. What we see as "divine" action is usually just confirmation bias, but if it's an... | If there is no god than who am I talking to?
Here is the plan brother. Stop looking for people to help you, like you've noticed they're mostly living paycheck to paycheck. Look for people suffering in similar ways that you are. This is called a community of vulnerability and they can be quite powerful. Once you find e... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lvfr1 | e3ltm68 | 8 | 3 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | I do have a minor counterpoint.
The universe is indifferent to suffering and god is not there. I don't disagree with that. Evolution created suffering, so naturally the universe is indifferent to it.
But humans evolved pro-social tendencies to try to combat suffering. So even if the universe is indifferent to suffe... | Sorry, u/kittyfox3 – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 1:
> **Direct responses to a CMV post must challenge at least one aspect of OP’s stated view (however minor), or ask a clarifying question**. Arguments in favor of the view OP is willing to change must be restricted to replies to other comments. [See... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lwt8m | e3ltgjz | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | **Δ** Actually, that's entirely possible right? Maybe I am challenging the views commonly held in the southern most portion of the United States. To me, I could even entertain the possibility that we're part of something akin to an ancestor simulation, with someone at the controls who bears little resemblance to what... | Evolution isn’t about purpose, it’s more about the effect of accidents on successful reproduction. It’s reasonable to suggest that the collection of accidents that led to the existence of sadness created a situation that helped signal to the larger community that support was needed, thereby helping sad people recover a... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lr7nv | e3lp1a9 | 87 | 59 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | Do you consider humans to be a part of the universe? | Well since Trump is widely hated and mocked around the world (and for obviously good reason), I wouldn't be surprised. | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3m5mjq | e3luje3 | 1 | 0 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | Youre looking at it the wrong way. The world is a cold evil place filled with sadness and terrible things. That is true. But. Everything good that has ever happened occurred despite of all this. Every person that became great, every person that found happiness....you guessed it, they lived in this same often times shit... | But without constraints, choices are not choices at all.
If you were unable to suffer, something would absolutely be lost, especially within the framework of any major religion. And within that framework, taking away your suffering, while retaining anything meaningful is impossible to even comprehend. What is good if... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3mk812 | e3m8hpf | 1 | 0 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | I challenge your hope as a waste of emotion. I used to believe - but after what I’ve been through- I don’t anymore. It’s a random crap shoot and predators will tear you apart.
I’m sorry you are going through this - life is messy, cruel and confusing. There’s no justice nor karma.
| That's why moral absolutism makes more sense. The idea that this world is meaningless is an absurd idea. It's obvious that we are the most important thing in the universe that we know of. We are alive and without bounds. Nothing like us has ever existed before or likely exist again. | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3mjj9h | e3mhhqy | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | I am a cancer survivor myself coming back from stage lV. It has made me evaluate a lot of things including god because of the hardships i went through and still going through. I strongly believe that it all about your karma and what happens to you now or even in your next life is just where you stand on your karma mete... | I really really struggled with calvanism. On the one hand, on an emotional level, it's completely unnaccaptle. If God is just flippantly choosing who does and doesn't get saved, where is the justice in that? It basically boils down to everyone going to hell for simply existing; no one has any control over their actions... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3mdrtg | e3m5r4i | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | As a non religious individual I often consider the fact that a "god" may very well exist, but considering the scope of both power and persuasion an individual of a god calibre would employ, it would be reasonable to assume that such an entity would view us as interesting and important as you would a single celled organ... | Have you ever played a computer game like *The Sims* or *Cities: Skylines*? Perhaps *X-COM* or some other strategy game where you play as an eye in the sky or, kind of a god? I'm asking because that's the closest we can become like a god. Otherwise I could compare it to being a teacher or a parent, or any role where... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lrxbr | e3lowxy | 584 | 39 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | You are absolutely right, the universe is indifferent to suffering, there is no afterlife, one day you will be forgotten.
But doesn’t that mean you should make the most of your finite time? Do whatever brings you joy, we’re all gonna die, let’s try and die happy when our time comes. | Let me try to give you another perspective.
First, the concept of God that you are fighting against, is a shadow of the reality, not the reality, religion is like the explanation of where do babies come from, to children, since they can't comprehend the complex reality, we talk to then using simplifications and symbol... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lt380 | e3lspr7 | 11 | 0 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | How can a conscious being recognize good when there is nothing to contrast it with? | Maybe God designed us in such a way that he can't know what we are going to do. I'm just brainstorming here. | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3mfxnj | e3m70h8 | 1 | 0 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | Just because bullshit happens to good people doesn't mean a God doesn't exist. True, if that God is the concept taught in many religions where prayer can make a difference and God chooses when to intercede or not, there's a lot of evidence to suggest that God doesn't exist then -- or he's a cruel sumbitch.
But imagine... | I'll throw in on this one.
I have thought about this a lot, so this is a gross oversimplification of my internal arguments.
Two important things to remember according to the Christians. 1) God promised happiness on earth if everyone followed the commandments, or put more simply "love thy neighbor as you love yoursel... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3mgbxo | e3m3wg0 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | The universe doesn't contain localized artifacts that *do* care about human suffering? | What's karma level have to do with asking in a thread? | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lucnm | e3lqac8 | 6 | 3 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | The reason religion, philosophy, and spirituality still exist is because science still can't explain everything. It's only observation and measurement based on our limited five senses. Every answer always brings up more questions. Always. Ask a scientist how something can come from nothing.
I can't fathom the suffer... | If there is no god than who am I talking to?
Here is the plan brother. Stop looking for people to help you, like you've noticed they're mostly living paycheck to paycheck. Look for people suffering in similar ways that you are. This is called a community of vulnerability and they can be quite powerful. Once you find e... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lv60q | e3ltm68 | 36 | 3 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | As for the Universe being indifferent to suffering: Which part of it are you referring to? The Universe includes everything, but the only part that's actually aware of anything (and therefore capable of caring or indifference) is conscious life. That would be us. And we aren't indifferent to suffering. Insofar as consc... | Sorry, u/obey_prezzzz – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 5:
> **Comments must contribute meaningfully to the conversation**.
Comments that are only links, jokes or "written upvotes" will be removed. Humor and affirmations of agreement can be contained within more substantial comments. [See the wiki pa... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lw5fw | e3lthga | 3 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | G-d isn't there to take care of everyone and make everything good. The act of praying forces a person to put into words clearly what they want and need and focus on it, something many don't do. It gives you the time to think about everything, in a hopeful light, to possibly find a solution, or, at the very least, what ... | >I would argue that an omnipotent being could make a world free of suffering, where free-will did not comprise a world where people's exercise of free will would anger him, provoking him into creating this painful existence.
You have an extremely common view of God - a creator - that I find alien. This idea that IF o... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3maihs | e3lub0o | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | I myself am agnostic. I was raised religious and became aware of different points of views as I grew throughout my life.
I do not believe a God is necessarily even a being defined to be good. What if our suffering causes greater goodness in the end? The reality to me is that I am human. As a human is flawed, I don't u... | I don't understand why you have to give one up. If you concede that constraints are what give our choices weight, or conversely, that limitless beings do not have to choose at all, then an omnipotent Christian God would give us choice, free will, and the suffering that comes with constraints. I mean, imagine what takin... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3mhg45 | e3m6ys1 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | Instead of convincing you to believe in God, I would rather let you believe that no such higher being exists. You may ask why? Because I wouldn't dare try Muhammad Ali to stop dancing and fight like Marciano or Tyson. And that too in the ring.
You are presently going through a very vwry tough face in your life. I los... | Let me try to give you another perspective.
First, the concept of God that you are fighting against, is a shadow of the reality, not the reality, religion is like the explanation of where do babies come from, to children, since they can't comprehend the complex reality, we talk to then using simplifications and symbol... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lw6xy | e3lspr7 | 4 | 0 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | Are humans not part of the universe? This very post has been made on the premise that we are *not* indifferent.
You might never believe in a God, but you do believe a tiny part of the universe is *not* indifferent.
Now take my upvote and let me know if you agree | You are absolutely right, the universe is indifferent to suffering, there is no afterlife, one day you will be forgotten.
But doesn’t that mean you should make the most of your finite time? Do whatever brings you joy, we’re all gonna die, let’s try and die happy when our time comes. | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3ltxl4 | e3lt380 | 66 | 11 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | Dude, the world is just one giant game of sims and god is some 13 year old kid who got told to take out the trash and stop playing when the 1900s rolled around | We have freedom of choice and in a roundabout way, we created our own layers of suffering upon suffering. It’s not that God is indifferent, it’s that we were promised choice. | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3mjt8f | e3m16pd | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | The reality from a philosophical view, I think, is that we don’t know if suffering is an actually evil thing. The so called “logical form of evil” isn’t convincing proof of a lack of god because we simply don’t understand the purpose of evil or suffering. We also don’t have the ability to measure all good and evil, we ... | While I'm not religious, I'm sympathetic to religion, thought not organized religion, or the average religious person. There's a few perspectives that might be worth keeping in mind. There's Deism, which used to be much more popular, especially among your founding fathers. Basically, they believed that God created the ... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lyk27 | e3lurq9 | 47 | 32 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | While I'm not religious, I'm sympathetic to religion, thought not organized religion, or the average religious person. There's a few perspectives that might be worth keeping in mind. There's Deism, which used to be much more popular, especially among your founding fathers. Basically, they believed that God created the ... | >I would argue that an omnipotent being could make a world free of suffering, where free-will did not comprise a world where people's exercise of free will would anger him, provoking him into creating this painful existence.
You have an extremely common view of God - a creator - that I find alien. This idea that IF o... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lurq9 | e3lub0o | 32 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | >I would argue that an omnipotent being could make a world free of suffering, where free-will did not comprise a world where people's exercise of free will would anger him, provoking him into creating this painful existence.
You have an extremely common view of God - a creator - that I find alien. This idea that IF o... | Let me try to give you another perspective.
First, the concept of God that you are fighting against, is a shadow of the reality, not the reality, religion is like the explanation of where do babies come from, to children, since they can't comprehend the complex reality, we talk to then using simplifications and symbol... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lub0o | e3lspr7 | 1 | 0 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | >Since I earned significant income in my attempt, SSA revoked my disability, upon trying to have it re-instated SSA informed me my attempts to re-apply for benefits will fail.
Let me try to change one small aspect of your views here: Whomever told you this at SSA that made you think your situation is hopeless, they ... | Have you ever played a computer game like *The Sims* or *Cities: Skylines*? Perhaps *X-COM* or some other strategy game where you play as an eye in the sky or, kind of a god? I'm asking because that's the closest we can become like a god. Otherwise I could compare it to being a teacher or a parent, or any role where... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lvd1e | e3lowxy | 326 | 39 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | If you're looking for a logical rebuttal, I'll do my best, though it may sound cold.
1st, I've never seen, read, heard or derived any truth about God that forbid it from allowing suffering. Indeed, quite the opposite. If he couldn't allow it than it wouldn't be god. As to why it happens, well, why not? Our universe i... | If there is no god than who am I talking to?
Here is the plan brother. Stop looking for people to help you, like you've noticed they're mostly living paycheck to paycheck. Look for people suffering in similar ways that you are. This is called a community of vulnerability and they can be quite powerful. Once you find e... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lxvvq | e3ltm68 | 4 | 3 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | Not sure what you are asking me to help you with, but I interpret it as asking for a new perspective.
I cannot change your mind on God as I agree with you almost completely. If there is a God they are either uncaring and simply do not wish to end suffering or aren’t powerful enough to do so. Either way its no worth w... | There maybe is a god.
But what makes you think he'd give any degree of shit about us? Maybe we're to god what bacteria are to us - just there.
But regardless of whether there is or isn't one - why would one ever rely on an invisible, allegedly almighty being that doesn't give a shit about you?
At the end of the d... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3mkyzf | e3m0jqt | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | Not gonna tell you there's a God, cos I don't think there is one, but almost every reply in this thread is evidence that people, other human beings, care about your struggles. People are part of the universe, so the universe cares about you. The universe can't be uncaring as long as there are humans in it willing to le... | Problems and pain aren’t evidence there is no God. How much problems and pain might God have prevented and we don’t know it?
I have adult children. I don’t solve all their problems for them. If I did, I wouldn’t be doing them any *real* favors. If I’m wise enough to know that, surely God is far more wise and knows w... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3mbled | e3lwfwp | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | The true nature of “God” is incomprehensible to the human mind. “God” is the culmination of everything in existence. “God” is also known as “the All”. I don’t think if “God” as a being with human flaws like judgement, anger, jealously etc. rather “God” is the creator and the creation. We are all just fragments of this... | >I would argue that an omnipotent being could make a world free of suffering, where free-will did not comprise a world where people's exercise of free will would anger him, provoking him into creating this painful existence.
You have an extremely common view of God - a creator - that I find alien. This idea that IF o... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3mbe1z | e3lub0o | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | Maybe this will sound really stupid, but I repeat it to myself every time my life gets seriously fucked up:
"There you go, finding a hidden advantage in an unfortunate circumstance; using pain to take you to the next level. Those are the things that turn players into kings."
\-Damon Pope, Sons of Anarchy | That's why moral absolutism makes more sense. The idea that this world is meaningless is an absurd idea. It's obvious that we are the most important thing in the universe that we know of. We are alive and without bounds. Nothing like us has ever existed before or likely exist again. | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3ml23r | e3mhhqy | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | There maybe is a god.
But what makes you think he'd give any degree of shit about us? Maybe we're to god what bacteria are to us - just there.
But regardless of whether there is or isn't one - why would one ever rely on an invisible, allegedly almighty being that doesn't give a shit about you?
At the end of the d... | Scarcity creates value. In a universe where life is infinite, life has no value. Same thing with joy. If joy is your default state of being, is it really better than "meh"? It's why videogames have health bars, because otherwise there would be no sense of urgency or accomplishment when tasks are completed or meaningful... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3m0jqt | e3lz43a | 1 | 0 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | Yaboy Yrock is late to the party, but I'll throw in what I can.
I'm a christian person. I believe in God and the bible and the whole deal. The faith you described, which I assume is the faith many people believe or at least think of when they think Christianity (I've done no research so I can be wrong) is not the fait... | Let me try to give you another perspective.
First, the concept of God that you are fighting against, is a shadow of the reality, not the reality, religion is like the explanation of where do babies come from, to children, since they can't comprehend the complex reality, we talk to then using simplifications and symbol... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3mkj3y | e3lspr7 | 2 | 0 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | Okay, ready?
I’m gonna give you everything I can think of with my limited knowledge and experience about being a a Christian.
You write that universe is just an uncaring creation and we’re just in a cycle, kinda how nature continues on regardless of what we do.
I think that God exists and more so, is caring and kind.... | >I would argue that an omnipotent being could make a world free of suffering, where free-will did not comprise a world where people's exercise of free will would anger him, provoking him into creating this painful existence.
You have an extremely common view of God - a creator - that I find alien. This idea that IF o... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lymyj | e3lub0o | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | I find Buddhist teachings and practices to be very palliative to deep suffering.
On the contrary to the religious philosophy you've described, Buddhism starts out with the very first precept they teach as "life is full of suffering" (the first noble truth).
The story goes that Buddha was inspired initially by comi... | Instead of convincing you to believe in God, I would rather let you believe that no such higher being exists. You may ask why? Because I wouldn't dare try Muhammad Ali to stop dancing and fight like Marciano or Tyson. And that too in the ring.
You are presently going through a very vwry tough face in your life. I los... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3m2np3 | e3lw6xy | 5 | 4 |
CMV: The argument that Randy Marsh uses against marijuana in South Park is actually more applicable to video games, and serves to illustrate why they are dangerous and damaging.
In S6E16 of South Park, Randy gives Stan the following speech about why he thinks marijuana is bad:
>Stan: I've been told a lot of things ab... | Video games can also improve hand-eye coordination, reaction times. They can help you develop problem-solving skills. They can help you learn to work with a team in order to achieve a goal. They can improve your health by being an outlet for stress. There are many real benefits to playing video games. | I don't see why this wouldn't apply to tons of other things. A similar case could he made for listening to music, reading books, watching movies, and tons of other stuff.
But, ultimately having these downtime activities where you're *not* doing something is important. We shouldn't be doing stuff 24/7. We should be all... | 9fea2w | CMV: The argument that Randy Marsh uses against marijuana in South Park is actually more applicable to video games, and serves to illustrate why they are dangerous and damaging. | In S6E16 of South Park, Randy gives Stan the following speech about why he thinks marijuana is bad:
>Stan: I've been told a lot of things about pot, but I've come to find out a lot of those things aren't true! So I don't know what to believe!
>Randy: Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you ki... | 1,536,806,704 | MrEctomy | e5vukzt | e5vuiih | 15 | 2 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | I was in a place that made me question why I was here. I focused on the dark parts of my life and wanted to know why they were happening to me, when I considered myself a good person. I had a lot of bright in my life, but I didn't pay attention to it. There is a song by Brand New called Jesus Christ. Theres a line... | There maybe is a god.
But what makes you think he'd give any degree of shit about us? Maybe we're to god what bacteria are to us - just there.
But regardless of whether there is or isn't one - why would one ever rely on an invisible, allegedly almighty being that doesn't give a shit about you?
At the end of the d... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3mo1fi | e3m0jqt | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | >I would argue that an omnipotent being could make a world free of suffering, where free-will did not comprise a world where people's exercise of free will would anger him, provoking him into creating this painful existence.
You have an extremely common view of God - a creator - that I find alien. This idea that IF o... | Let me try to give you another perspective.
First, the concept of God that you are fighting against, is a shadow of the reality, not the reality, religion is like the explanation of where do babies come from, to children, since they can't comprehend the complex reality, we talk to then using simplifications and symbol... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lub0o | e3lspr7 | 1 | 0 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | My personal belief is deism. The main belief is a belief in a higher being(s) but also a strong focus in logic and reason. Thus, membership into organized religion is not done and looking at holy books as nothing more than parables on good behavior/positive ways to live life. It’s a belief that a god or gods exist b... | Instead of convincing you to believe in God, I would rather let you believe that no such higher being exists. You may ask why? Because I wouldn't dare try Muhammad Ali to stop dancing and fight like Marciano or Tyson. And that too in the ring.
You are presently going through a very vwry tough face in your life. I los... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3m3pns | e3lw6xy | 8 | 4 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | Life is far from fair. You have been dealt a very poor hand of cards - you can either capitulate or be determined to make the best of it. Don't rely on others for help; there's always recourse in your own actions and efforts. It might not be immediately clear how, but if there's a will, there's a way, and if anyone tel... | As David Hume put it, religious people are not people who have made an error in their reasoning and need to be put right, but rather emotional creatures who should be left to pursuit what ever it is they desire.
You constructed the bulk of your argument referencing the bible, which in your view validate the existence... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3m7lzn | e3lyz38 | 2 | 0 |
CMV: People should not be shocked by Cambridge Analytica
First, let's look at the act of data collection: Facebook, being a company, has a goal of making money through their revenue streams. Our data is valuable and we already know they sell it (or, anyone who has seen an ad on Facebook should!).
We give up our right... | >I don't trust entities in positions of power to follow the laws or behave ethically all the time.
What's shocking is not just that they broke the law or behaved unethically, but that the CEO was willing to brag about it to a potential client. That suggests that the lawbreaking and unethical behavior is a matter of co... | Facebook is a public company.
It's reasonable and necessary to do so - hence the need for laws, enforcement and trust. You literally can't operate in the modern world without handing over information that you'd regard as sensitive, or that becomes sensitive when combined with other information. You can talk about th... | 870n7q | CMV: People should not be shocked by Cambridge Analytica | First, let's look at the act of data collection: Facebook, being a company, has a goal of making money through their revenue streams. Our data is valuable and we already know they sell it (or, anyone who has seen an ad on Facebook should!).
We give up our right to our data once we trade it (our product) as a means of ... | 1,521,984,235 | weboutdatsublife | dw9g7l1 | dw9bckg | 10 | 7 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | The reality from a philosophical view, I think, is that we don’t know if suffering is an actually evil thing. The so called “logical form of evil” isn’t convincing proof of a lack of god because we simply don’t understand the purpose of evil or suffering. We also don’t have the ability to measure all good and evil, we ... | While I'm not religious, I'm sympathetic to religion, thought not organized religion, or the average religious person. There's a few perspectives that might be worth keeping in mind. There's Deism, which used to be much more popular, especially among your founding fathers. Basically, they believed that God created the ... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3lyk27 | e3lurq9 | 47 | 32 |
CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there
Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in... | I personally am religious (a Christian). I believe that we all came to earth to learn and grow from mistakes/hardships, and they are there for a reason and everyone has to deal with them. Its different for everyone, but i believe they are there for us to help us be better people. Now, I understand why people aren't re... | I do have a minor counterpoint.
The universe is indifferent to suffering and god is not there. I don't disagree with that. Evolution created suffering, so naturally the universe is indifferent to it.
But humans evolved pro-social tendencies to try to combat suffering. So even if the universe is indifferent to suffe... | 94k9lf | CMV: The universe indifferent to suffering, god is not there | Please do not downvote me, even if you resent my views. I am trying to build up 300 Karma so I can ask for assistance on my family on /r/assistance. Even after a year, I am struggling to build even 200ish Karma up. People say Karma doesn't matter, but in our case it does. I am not asking for upvotes, merely that y... | 1,533,399,300 | joshingkatie | e3ly33f | e3lwt8m | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Sam Harris's program to give ethics an axiomatic foundation is, according to his particular formulation, logically incoherent.
This one is quite simple, and I'm sure that the details can be worked out through discussion. Harris asks us to assume that wellbeing is to be axiomatically regarded as the foundation for... | > But this is logically incoherent
It seems like you're confusing "incoherent" with "unpersuasive."
You're saying that Harris is begging the question - that he's assuming (by axiom) a conclusion that he wants to reach. I tend agree with you, but I don't think it's any more incoherent than saying something like: "Sup... | I agree in terms of trying to create a moral framework but in terms of judging actions within an established moral system, a goal needs to be in mind to be able to judge an action on moral grounds. The study of ethics doesn't stop once you find a moral framework. The goal of ethics isn't to figure out what the baromete... | 9eyhsc | CMV: Sam Harris's program to give ethics an axiomatic foundation is, according to his particular formulation, logically incoherent. | This one is quite simple, and I'm sure that the details can be worked out through discussion. Harris asks us to assume that wellbeing is to be axiomatically regarded as the foundation for our ethical system, that is, the domain of inquiry that includes working out what the aim of an ethical system ought to be.
But thi... | 1,536,679,362 | BBB1685 | e5siknq | e5sid1v | 3 | 1 |
CMV: Having children is selfish
For the last year or so I have started to realize the selfishness of producing biological children.
First, I will start off with the parents. Ill use mine for example, more specifically my mom. My mom had a wide range of mental issues, at the time of conceiving me she knew she atleast... | Parenting, even parenting poorly, consumes time and resources for little reward that a non-altruistic person would appreciate. Please explain how loss of autonomy and resources, and living with an unappreciative child for decades, would be selfish *in all cases*. | But the thing is, nobody wants to put up with a second hand child when they can start off with a "clean slate" with little to no regulation by the government. The ones who do most likely adopt or take in younger children with little to no psychological issues. Meanwhile older kids are left in the system being passed fr... | 871p1o | CMV: Having children is selfish | For the last year or so I have started to realize the selfishness of producing biological children.
First, I will start off with the parents. Ill use mine for example, more specifically my mom. My mom had a wide range of mental issues, at the time of conceiving me she knew she atleast had depression. My moms mother(m... | 1,521,994,588 | samsambobam11 | dw9oom8 | dw9o1di | 3 | 1 |
CMV: As a discipline, history has no merit other than to produce propaganda
I think that as a discipline, history has no merit other than to produce propaganda. What I mean by this is that there is no purpose of proposing or debunking historical claims aside from as a rhetorical device for politics. Actual argument sh... | Are museums propaganda?
If you see an exhibit where they have the helmet that general so-and-so wore in a war centuries ago, does that have no merit? Whether it's because it's job-creating and revenue-generating for the museum, financially-valuable as a unit to be sold or traded (even if its value is "arbitrary" rathe... | History can be used as propaganda. But to say it has no merit is like saying a persons memories have no value except as raw data.
Also, do news and journalism hold any value? What is the difference between history and news? How long does news have to wait before it becomes history? How can we interpret news without hav... | 6qlm5h | CMV: As a discipline, history has no merit other than to produce propaganda | I think that as a discipline, history has no merit other than to produce propaganda. What I mean by this is that there is no purpose of proposing or debunking historical claims aside from as a rhetorical device for politics. Actual argument should be made through disciplines such as economics and anthropology and histo... | 1,501,468,360 | Julius_Aquinas | dky8cfs | dky85wr | 6 | 4 |
CMV: Your political views are not a reason to cut ties from family, friends, etc.
‘Tis the season for everyone to say “I have a racist uncle,” “drunk divorced aunt,” etc. I am not saying that your racist uncle or hypocritical aunt have acceptable and/or PC views. Please, let’s not debate the acceptability of these vie... | So this is quite relevant to me in two ways.
My family is full of homeopaths. They believe in normal medicine so it isn’t a health issue. But you want to know what they hate? Technology. They don’t even have landline. They pratically live like amish when it comes to modern technology. They believe wifi and 3g are fry... | I agree that family bonds are more important than political opinions.
But for some households, politics are personal. In history many family rivalries have been created in terms of cultural seperation or "family feuds" regarding certain individuals or people.
For example in the 1960's especially in the southern state... | a8jvtg | CMV: Your political views are not a reason to cut ties from family, friends, etc. | ‘Tis the season for everyone to say “I have a racist uncle,” “drunk divorced aunt,” etc. I am not saying that your racist uncle or hypocritical aunt have acceptable and/or PC views. Please, let’s not debate the acceptability of these views.
What I want to discuss is the fact that these people, hopefully, mattered to y... | 1,545,474,942 | tnel77 | ecbwv0j | ecb9xps | 4 | 1 |
CMV: Corporate Diversity Initiatives Generally Do More Harm Than Good
For this post, I will consider "corporate diversity initiatives" to be corporate policies intending to increase the number of "diverse" candidates that they hire or promote. This might include inviting diverse candidates to exclusive networking even... | This problem would be so easy to solve if we weren't human.
If we wouldn't subconciously be drawn to a certain gender, look, skin color or anything else we wouldn't have this discussion. If we would be able to turn off our human believes and subjective opinions and be truly objective, equality would be achieved. Unfor... | 1. It limits discrimination lawsuits. This is just a simple fact it's the law you can't discriminate against people so you to succeed you want to create a culture that preemptively stops it from happening.
2. People have biases towards people like themselves and might choose an inferior candidate just because they lik... | e2mctn | CMV: Corporate Diversity Initiatives Generally Do More Harm Than Good | For this post, I will consider "corporate diversity initiatives" to be corporate policies intending to increase the number of "diverse" candidates that they hire or promote. This might include inviting diverse candidates to exclusive networking events, resume reviews, leadership workshops, etc., subjecting non-diverse ... | 1,574,887,021 | thinker111111 | f8wgive | f8wf1os | 2 | 1 |
CMV: I have never seen an argument AGAINST Net Neutrality, that shows knowledge or understanding of how the internet works. So give me one
Okay now that all the mainstream hype over this is over lets get real here.
Before I get started: **If you don't feel knowledgeable enough to make a case against Net Neutrality bu... | The technical part comes in a second, but first let me elaborate my position. I am pro net neutrality, but in my opinion a lot of people have a wrong understanding of it. A lot of people equate net neutrality to treating all the data the same. This is not a good choice, and here is why:
As written in the top post, you... | Whether or not it is relevant to the discussion, it is literally true that "video data takes up more bandwidth than text data," and my source _shows_ that it is true. If you did not think that this was somehow relevant, why did you mention it in your original post?
>If someone pays for 100mbps and they use all that ba... | 94q52y | CMV: I have never seen an argument AGAINST Net Neutrality, that shows knowledge or understanding of how the internet works. So give me one | Okay now that all the mainstream hype over this is over lets get real here.
Before I get started: **If you don't feel knowledgeable enough to make a case against Net Neutrality but want to see a debate, Please upvote so people who are knowledgeable can see this and make their case against it.**No offence but I thing w... | 1,533,453,232 | Jeremiahv8 | e3n2b4b | e3myw7f | 241 | 18 |
CMV: Corporate Diversity Initiatives Generally Do More Harm Than Good
For this post, I will consider "corporate diversity initiatives" to be corporate policies intending to increase the number of "diverse" candidates that they hire or promote. This might include inviting diverse candidates to exclusive networking even... | I am going to deal with the Imposter Syndrome portion because that rings close to me. Imposter Syndrome has little to nothing to do with diversity programs. If anything, it shows why we need more.
There are several overlays if you are a person of color. The old saying is that "you have to work twice as hard for half ... | I would like to ask what you think the solution is then to overcoming discrimination in the hiring process? I don’t believe that we can assume people will naturally start hiring more diverse individuals based solely on their qualifications because the fact that many are biased and don’t do this is the exact reason why ... | e2mctn | CMV: Corporate Diversity Initiatives Generally Do More Harm Than Good | For this post, I will consider "corporate diversity initiatives" to be corporate policies intending to increase the number of "diverse" candidates that they hire or promote. This might include inviting diverse candidates to exclusive networking events, resume reviews, leadership workshops, etc., subjecting non-diverse ... | 1,574,887,021 | thinker111111 | f8wvdua | f8wig74 | 6 | 3 |
CMV: The Prophet Muhammad, claimed under Islam as the Most Moral of All Men, was a child rapist.
The hadiths make it clear that he took his wife Aisha for marriage when she was 6. Many Muhammad apologists try to say she was actually much older and the Hadiths in question can't be trusted since they aren't "the word of... | So do you think its ok to pick and choose hadiths to accept? Or are you saying its better to discount them all entirely? | What are you quoting then?
I don't believe in either religions but you are making quite a big assertion and not offering any source. | mvqyoq | CMV: The Prophet Muhammad, claimed under Islam as the Most Moral of All Men, was a child rapist. | The hadiths make it clear that he took his wife Aisha for marriage when she was 6. Many Muhammad apologists try to say she was actually much older and the Hadiths in question can't be trusted since they aren't "the word of Allah".. even though many are first hand accounts of the girl herself. By following the logic tha... | 1,619,043,608 | Drewsef916 | gve04v8 | gvdyckg | 14 | 10 |
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